Master Modes—Trichord Limiter Fundamentally Flawed?

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Before we get started, I am not asking for trichording to be reintroduced.

@YogiKlatt-CIG :

Bottom line up front:

The MM trichord limiter truncates lateral acceleration.Therefore, a bi/tri-chording party cannot contest an opponent’s lateral acceleration. Which means that they also cannot control transverse velocity (transV).The party that has the most control over transV is best able to dictate combat range.Thus, the more “passive” player (contributing no centripetal acceleration) gets to dictate combat range. Basically without exception.

The trichord limiter should prefer preserving lateral acceleration at the expense of forward acceleration. Alternatively, lateral accelerations should be limited when not combined with another acceleration axis. E.g., in the absence of a bichord.

The crunchy stuff

The formula for uniform circular motion is a = (transV^2)/r.

Before proceeding, I want to make sure we’re clear on what the utility of the formula is. What it describes are the relationships between centripetal acceleration (a), transverse velocity (transV, velocity component at right angles to the radius), and the radius of the “uniform” circle (r). It is worth noting that these circles are rarely uniform unless we are orbiting a static object, but I don’t see this as fatal here.

The practical utility, for Star Citizen purposes, lies in informing the things we can do to influence range to an opponent.At bottom, the party with the most control over transV is best able to control that range.Thus, the issue: Party A is accelerating (forward) towards an opponent and also trying to prevent transV from rising by feeding in lateral (side) strafe. Party B, says “no way” and is trying to keep A from reducing transV in order to prevent the range between them from decreasing. Party B is only strafing laterally.A cannot prevent B from increasing the relative transV between the two of them, and therefore cannot prevent B from increasing range.As a note, I’m taking the speed walls out of the picture here, because they make things pretty difficult and depend on particular choices by each pilot.

The suggestion(s)

Suggestion 1: require the trichord limiter to preserve as much lateral acceleration as is commanded by the pilot, at the expense of centripetal acceleration.
Suggestion 2 (the more controversial, but also more interesting in my view): require a bichord in order to get maximum lateral acceleration. For example, the Gladius has 10g unboosted L/R acceleration. Add a system in that says one cannot get 10g laterally, unless combined with forward. This would put positive control over transV in the hands of the pilot attempting to close. A lateral-only kiter would not be able to easily prevent closure and would require blow-throughs to achieve range.

Attached is a video demonstrating the truncating of the lateral accel component. Don’t watch the G-meter numbers, but pay attention to the accel component lines and watch how they shrink/grow as forward is added/removed.

Do you have G-safe on?

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